Finally, BaziDiary has got his inspiration back in the Chen Hour to update his blog. Welcome back! What caught my attention was this statement: -
“… But by layering different ‘schools of thoughts’ the reading becomes more accurate. That is one reason why I always do my analysis (online consults) via a questions and answers approach…”.
Most school advocates the strength of the chart as the entry level in deciphering BaZi.
Take the following example: - This Yi Wood is born in season. Not supported by stems and branches. One school of thought states that when the season is supportive it is read as a strong chart, while the others; this is structurally a weak chart.
Let’s investigate further; the entire solid winter is present. Born at night Ding fire is very weak. Seated on water thus painting the entire chart overly abundant with water. When there is too much water will it uproot the plant? If the chart is read as a weak chart, wouldn’t water be his favorable god, as weak chart prefers to see resource?
From the dialogue with this Yi person, we found that water related issues were prominent. Yet, if it is a weak chart, why would that be an issue after all?
Reading it as a weak chart is not entirely wrong. A weak Yi needs resource, water. In the father palace, there is a resource star. Reflecting on real life, it is true he is very reliable to his father in terms of finance and materials. Because water is favorable, therefore the outcomes to him are favorable.
So water can be both favorable and unfavorable?
In the more so called advance level, strength of charts becomes secondary. The context of the chart becomes primary. We only use the strength as a point of departure, not entirely as a reference cast in stone.
The overall context will single out the useful element as in this case is…?
So, I quite agree with BaziDiary on the layering of different strokes, but I constantly remind myself not to be confused and fixated to the rule of the games. Do you think otherwise?
12 comments:
Water makes the wood strong but in this case the water being too much not only uproots but also make the wood soggy and bad. Too much of anything is bad. Its imbalance and in bazi we aim to bring balance in the chart.
This person is too emotional and could be lazy as well.What he needs is fire to warm the chart and earth to control the excess water.
BAZI is never cut and right. One has to really use their knowledge and under stand fundamentals and gauge each chart individually and not go by rules. because every chart is distinct and has to be analysed differently.
Do you agree David?
The problem with rules is you have to take it in relative terms. Imagine if you cannot find it in the branch, the appearence of the fav element in the stem will also make a big difference. And if you go from a non existence fav element to one in the stem, the impact will still be felt.
can you really measure luck in a definitive way....I can tell you quite difficult. Effort counts in the returns. Like mentioned in my latest article, if you know when it is supportive do more, and you get more. Do less on a good period, things will be still good but not optimise.
Chris
preethikini,
Don't forget there is also another way of looking at imagery. This Yi wood has no root. So, is it a live wood or a dead one? If it is a dead one, what good is water to it? Similarly so is the Sun?
Earth is a better choice. If we take earth as the useful god wouldn't it be read as a strong chart instead?
Bazidiary,
Well said pal. Even if it is missing in the stems and the branches, you can still dig it in the Nayin element.
One is suppose to measure luck in a definitive way... no doubt it is difficult, that is the challenge. No pain no gains and sacrifices are the ways of the Dao, will it make it any different in BaZi?
Good luck to you in 2010...
Has our pet project have not reveal from the graveyard of the Hai month?
Cheers
Started to think abt it again (pet project) but the eating god year will give rise to multiple pet projects, so if you want to see the moolah, can't just depend on me my friend. I have a 100 mouths (and probably their families to feed).
Bazidiary,
That was a surprise response! Anyway, feeding the 100 mouths are more important.
Cheers
hi
in my opinion,
this chart "sickness" is more easier to identify compare with the previous two (judge's and the lady's)
It is cold, and the water is abundant to uproot the wood. abundant of water is the sickness here,if earth is used to "counter" the water, the earth used must be strong, i.e Ji Chou. Or else it will anger the water, and result inauspicious outcome- water related illness at the lower middle of the body part.Thus, Xin Chou earth is unfavorable. However,when Chen and Xu earthly branch arrive,even thou the earthly branch is weak, example Jia Chen, it will not anger the Hai, resoning is there are no relation at all between Hai and Chen in the "Xing Cong He Hai", thus can spot the "outcome" during the Wei and Chou arrival. For example, 2009 Ji Chou year, is a very favorable year to this owner of chart (if it really is) because the Hai is successfully being "counter".
besides earth, I picked "Mao" and "Yin" to be used in the earthly branch, as arrival of these two branch resulting self obtain strong rooted, and "manifest" the water, at the same time wood earthly branch weaken the water through liu he, half san he. Geng Yin year, Yin tiger is not that strong (gai tou), earthly branch interaction is "peaceful", but the Geng will weaken the Ding fire at hour pillar. Might have some "thought" confusion.if this is a women chart, will have problem regarding to child.
arrival of wood at the heaven stem can be used as well,this wood will not uproot because it is from the luck not from chart. this wood can birth the ding at the hour pillar which act as tiao hou.
some of the "theory" that i started to practice lately...
regds
Shi Xiang,
Welcome back my friend. Some times later we could sit down together for a cup of tea.
Your reading is becoming accurate. Well done. Thought that you had left BaZi fo something else. How is your study?
True enough, water is abundant rendering the chart off balance. We called this boiling the herbs. He has issue with kidney stones and intestinal growths. Earth is not much of the use especially wet earth liked Chou. Jia wood is a better choice. Indeed true the ChenXu clash indicating somethings. However the solid Ji earth pillar of Chou may not be that favorable after all.
Good try Shi Xiang.
hi,
I was planned to "venture" into Zi Wei Dou Shu, but after reading the "material", do find out that actually to start a subject from 0 knowledge is really tough (ha ha) ... it takes a long time just to be familiar with the basics (stick back with bazi for the time being).
having a sem break now, do have some extra time to read the classic. With modern chinese educated background, it's really hard to understand those "gu wen" in the classic... lucky enough I manage to obtain the "白话文" version with the 古文text of San Ming Tong Hui. While, it does open up my eyes in seeing a bazi in a different ways, but it takes time to "absorb" those theories haha...
was looking for "Di Tian Shui"'s 白话文" version now, suspecting there are a lot of underlying secret in these classic that does not disclose into the public/market by most of the "si fu"out there who had read it,...haha
after browsing Bing Bazi and your Blog,do find out that people with following configuration of bazi, usually have defects in their body part...
o o- indicate same earthly branch/stem
DM
x x x x
x o o x
DM
x x x x
o x x o
DM
o x x o
x x x x
DM
x o o x
x x x x
once identified the element that responsible for the body part, it has high probability to spot the sickness, it this case it was the 亥 亥...
Shi Xiang,
I believed all CM are the same. When you have the basic in one subject you can gradually progress to another subject. The fundamentals are the same, YinYang 5 elements. The approach are different.
For example, ZiPing can be quite structural and abstract at the same time. It is wrong to say that ZiPing can only give an overall picture without narrowing to a specific investigation. Whereas ZiWei is efficient in narrowing down to a detail investigation without giving a broad brush picture. These two techniques only work in different levels.
Good Hunting.
Yes, there are some patterns recognitions that we used to be familiarized with for quick readings just liked what you had highlighted, especially when these palaces are clashed or harmed. Notice that one is just enough, two is a little too much. So don't be too happy when one see wealth star tabulated all over the natal chart. It is usually off balanced!
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