Is another Fake Follower chart season again. This time, will the fake followers really follow?
Ren water born untimely with no support from both heaven and earth. So this is a classic follower chart. With water revealed and rooted as a sub Qi in Chen, will this qualify as a fake follower?
Lets investigate further. Assuming a fake follower, making officer, wealth and output favorable.
She said, “My childhood (WuWu) was good did really well in school, had good friends, has lots of hobbies. Good relationship with extended family during this time…”
One perspective is, because there is no output in arbitration, her authority is “lousy”. However, because of the DE eclipse for her first 10 years matching her DE pillar in the natal chart, these “lousiness” has become very much less unfavorable. She could still be a fake follower.
She continued, “My teenage years and early 20s were not so good, that would be (Ding Si) Luck pillar. Moved to another country, has an eating disorder, my mother drove me crazy, could not decide what career I wanted for the longest time. Finally went to college for graphic design. Generally lot of instability and worry during this time. A lot of men wanted to date me, but I somehow picked the wrong type of guy.”
Ren is afraid of contamination, notably by Ji earth. During the solid fire pillar, such contaminations result in confusion especially coming from her mum as it involves her mother palace. Assuming a follower structure, the outcome is favorable.
She resumed, “Starting at age 26-27 (Bing Chen) everything got a lot more stable. I moved in with my boyfriend and we have our own apartment. I got a job doing graphic design, very close to home, the people are nice and they seem to like me and appreciate my work. It is a little boring at times, not enough variety and challenge. My boyfriend is nice and loving, but he does not have any money. He works hard, but is irresponsible, spends too much and never remembers to pay his bills on time. I feel that he has to be monitored like a little child and I don't have any desire/ability to control someone else. He can be impatient and sometimes has bad temper. I met him when I was 20, we broke up after 2 years, then got back together 3 years later. I considered leaving him many times. He asked me to marry him, I don't know if I want to do that. I don't want to leave him either.”
First, there is a Chen-Chen self punishment at the spouse palace. Then there is a Ren-Bing clash. So, it tells the story of learning to live together is a greater “self-inflicted” task. They will consolidate their differences and live happily ever after although not without a roller coaster ride, given a follower chart.
She concluded by saying, “My relationship with my mother got really bad when I was growing up. Now it got a little bit better, but I still don't like her and would rather not visit her if I can help it. My dad is cold and indifferent and I never had any type of "relationship" with him. He is generous, but any time he had any intentions of giving me money (when I was a teenager) my mother quickly put a stop to it. She is very controlling. He only started doing really well financially when I was an adult. My relationship with my sister and brother is very good.”
Her mother is always there for her although her actions may be seen over controlling. That is the nature when a fake follower lacked output, having a wealth in her mother palace. At the end, it means well for her. Similarly to her father, with a lack of “relationship” due largely to the DE. No doubt, her relationship with her sibling is good, there is a tendency for a Mao Chen harm, which among others leading to some rotten relationship between her spouse with her siblings.
In summary, a fake follower does follow. Do you think otherwise?
Ren water born untimely with no support from both heaven and earth. So this is a classic follower chart. With water revealed and rooted as a sub Qi in Chen, will this qualify as a fake follower?
Lets investigate further. Assuming a fake follower, making officer, wealth and output favorable.
She said, “My childhood (WuWu) was good did really well in school, had good friends, has lots of hobbies. Good relationship with extended family during this time…”
One perspective is, because there is no output in arbitration, her authority is “lousy”. However, because of the DE eclipse for her first 10 years matching her DE pillar in the natal chart, these “lousiness” has become very much less unfavorable. She could still be a fake follower.
She continued, “My teenage years and early 20s were not so good, that would be (Ding Si) Luck pillar. Moved to another country, has an eating disorder, my mother drove me crazy, could not decide what career I wanted for the longest time. Finally went to college for graphic design. Generally lot of instability and worry during this time. A lot of men wanted to date me, but I somehow picked the wrong type of guy.”
Ren is afraid of contamination, notably by Ji earth. During the solid fire pillar, such contaminations result in confusion especially coming from her mum as it involves her mother palace. Assuming a follower structure, the outcome is favorable.
She resumed, “Starting at age 26-27 (Bing Chen) everything got a lot more stable. I moved in with my boyfriend and we have our own apartment. I got a job doing graphic design, very close to home, the people are nice and they seem to like me and appreciate my work. It is a little boring at times, not enough variety and challenge. My boyfriend is nice and loving, but he does not have any money. He works hard, but is irresponsible, spends too much and never remembers to pay his bills on time. I feel that he has to be monitored like a little child and I don't have any desire/ability to control someone else. He can be impatient and sometimes has bad temper. I met him when I was 20, we broke up after 2 years, then got back together 3 years later. I considered leaving him many times. He asked me to marry him, I don't know if I want to do that. I don't want to leave him either.”
First, there is a Chen-Chen self punishment at the spouse palace. Then there is a Ren-Bing clash. So, it tells the story of learning to live together is a greater “self-inflicted” task. They will consolidate their differences and live happily ever after although not without a roller coaster ride, given a follower chart.
She concluded by saying, “My relationship with my mother got really bad when I was growing up. Now it got a little bit better, but I still don't like her and would rather not visit her if I can help it. My dad is cold and indifferent and I never had any type of "relationship" with him. He is generous, but any time he had any intentions of giving me money (when I was a teenager) my mother quickly put a stop to it. She is very controlling. He only started doing really well financially when I was an adult. My relationship with my sister and brother is very good.”
Her mother is always there for her although her actions may be seen over controlling. That is the nature when a fake follower lacked output, having a wealth in her mother palace. At the end, it means well for her. Similarly to her father, with a lack of “relationship” due largely to the DE. No doubt, her relationship with her sibling is good, there is a tendency for a Mao Chen harm, which among others leading to some rotten relationship between her spouse with her siblings.
In summary, a fake follower does follow. Do you think otherwise?
7 comments:
I`m happy you´ve come back, Mr. David!!! Don´t get appart again!
Please may I ask you some questions? Yes, Thanks, hahaha
What element is she following?
You said "Assuming a fake follower (meaning weak Ren?), making officer, wealth and output favorable. ", so my question is being a "true follower" which are the favourable elements now?
What could she do to be rich? hahhaha (I mean which favourable elements could help her to achieve her own business or rewarding activity?
Being "true follower", means her spouse and wealth elements are those ones corresponding to the element in follow?
Thank for your attention!!!
What element is she following?
Your Answer: Being "true follower", means her spouse and wealth elements are those ones corresponding to the element in follow?
You said "Assuming a fake follower (meaning weak Ren?), making officer, wealth and output favorable. ", so my question is being a "true follower" which are the favourable elements now?
Your Answer: Being "true follower", means her spouse and wealth elements are those ones corresponding to the element in follow?
What could she do to be rich? hahhaha (I mean which favourable elements could help her to achieve her own business or rewarding activity?
My Answer: You need money, You work hard (Action)
Being "true follower", means her spouse and wealth elements are those ones corresponding to the element in follow?
My Answer: That is your answer to your question.
Any more question?
Thanks a lot!!!
Hi, I am the owner of this chart, I just did a year by year breakdown of my life.
Ren years were favorable is some ways, Gui years were very unfavorable. Metal years were good.
2 fire years in the Ding Si LP were pretty bad. The 2 fire years in Bing Chen LP were ok, some stressful staff happened, but nothing major. Earth and Wood years were ok. Does this make sense from a Bazi point of view. Does this make my chart a "Fake Follower" or a chart with weak DM?
Hi Guest (Bazi Owner)
Generally, our discussion is based on a broad brush approach in this blog.
Annual analysis is another cup of tea. For example, my friend BaziDiary has been very mindful to note down exactly the details of his life when, for example, a harm of the EB as to what event occur then as revealed or rather manifested to be seen. So in your case, there must be some kind of "movement" such as a clash, harm or punishment happened at the EB and what reveals to be matched back to your natal chart, arbitrated by your LP and so on so forth. So, all the elements are in "play" rather not sequential but in tandem.
Cheers
Hi David,
I have nearly a similar chart, but this lady needs physciatric help.
This is her chart
yi/ren/yi/bing
si/chen/wei/wu
going thru LP of xin mao.
Can you take some time and examine this chart?
regds
Hi Preethi kini,
Will do when I have the time.
Cheers
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